Moderators Moderator_02 Posted February 13, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 13, 2017 http://www.prensa.com/in_english/Robo-Banco-General-muerta-seguridad_21_4687241236.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Moderator_02 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted February 13, 2017 Quote 18-year-old held in bank killing Posted on February 12, 2017 in Panama Post Views: 118 AN 18 year old youth charged with homicide robbery and possession of firearms was ordered help in provisional detention on Sunday, Feb 12 by the judge of guarantees of the First judicial circuit of Panama, Jose Félix Sánchez. During the robbery on Friday, Feb 10 at a branch of Banco General on n the Via Cincuentenario, Chanis area, a 62 year old female teller was shot and killed and a security guard wounded. The robbery netted $195,000. which was recovered from the getaway vehicle. Three other involved in the robbery were given precautionary measures and must report three times a week. http://www.newsroompanama.com/news/panama/18-year-old-held-bank-killing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger B Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 This bank is close to my house in PC and I do some banking transactions in that bank. It is another sad story. Thinks like this makes the general population to criticize harshly the police authorities and the government and ask for prompt solutions to security and handling the maleantes. There is a folkloric tale in Panama that back in 1964 we had a President of the Republic named Marco Aurelio Robles. He had a nickname that time that was "Marco Rifle". It is being told that on that time the President ordered the police that criminal saw in flagrant crime must be shot immediatelly. People said it helped to reduce criminal actions drastically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Querencia Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 " Three other involved in the robbery were given precautionary measures and must report three times a week. " Doesn't sound like they are serious about tackling crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Woolford Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) The Ministerio Publico is appealing the release of the three suspects. The cashier who was shot in the face was the mother of an MP prosecutor. In a press conference this morning, officials stated that the act was obviously carried out by a "well organized group". http://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/Autores-Chanis-forman-organizado-MP_0_999200408.html Edited February 13, 2017 by Keith Woolford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger B Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 22 hours ago, Querencia said: " Three other involved in the robbery were given precautionary measures and must report three times a week. " Doesn't sound like they are serious about tackling crime. Well. That is why I am not so friendly with attorneys or lawyers. They know how to twist the law in favor of their clients. Also the judges do interpret the law according to what they think is correct. But this thing is backfiring the government. The people's outrage is increasing and will harm the very deteriorated image of our actual government and law authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Woolford Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) The three other suspects in this case were locked up last night after an Appeals court hearing. http://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/Inicia-detencion-vinculados-Banco-General_0_1000100789.html Edited February 18, 2017 by Keith Woolford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger B Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 President Varela told to the news media that the family members of the three suspects of this murder were threatening the judges. Also he was emphatic that he will not allow this kind of threats to judges, witnesses, and members of the authorities. http://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/Varela-familiares-Banco-General-amenazan-noticias-panama_0_4692280815.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelyn Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Roger B said: President Varela told to the news media that the family members of the three suspects of this murder were threatening the judges. Also he was emphatic that he will not allow this kind of threats to judges, witnesses, and members of the authorities. http://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/Varela-familiares-Banco-General-amenazan-noticias-panama_0_4692280815.html I'm glad President Varela has taken this strong position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF13 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, Marcelyn said: I'm glad President Varela has taken this strong position. It is one thing to fail to prosecute crimes against Expats, but if that extended to murders against Panamanians, then this indeed must be classified as a completetly lawless Country. That would bring the attendant bad publicity that would surely destroy the tourist industry. I do not think the President had any choice but to react to reports of judge threatening. Now, let's see if there are any results instead of hiding behind process as has happened locally to the Expat community. Edited February 19, 2017 by JohnF13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Woolford Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 A fifth suspect in this case has been jailed. http://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/Dictan-preventiva-sospechoso-Banco-General_0_1000700370.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarieElaine Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I have to wonder about the intelligence of these maleantes. Do they not realize that everything is caught on cameras these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelyn Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, MarieElaine said: I have to wonder about the intelligence of these maleantes. Do they not realize that everything is caught on cameras these days? Maybe "no worries" if your family members can threaten judges, witnesses, etc. (See Roger B's posting re Varela's report to news media). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger B Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 On 2/18/2017 at 3:02 PM, Marcelyn said: I'm glad President Varela has taken this strong position. If not... for sure people's pressure will be so high that he will have to do something quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger B Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 9 hours ago, JohnF13 said: It is one thing to fail to prosecute crimes against Expats, but if that extended to murders against Panamanians, then this indeed must be classified as a completetly lawless Country. That would bring the attendant bad publicity that would surely destroy the tourist industry. I do not think the President had any choice but to react to reports of judge threatening. Now, let's see if there are any results instead of hiding behind process as has happened locally to the Expat community. JohnF13: It is not a problem of such magnitude like other countries in Central America and South America.... but it is something to take care immediately. For every expat murdered and victim of a crime there are a thousand of locals panamanians being attacked by the maleantes. The president doesnt want bad publicity. He has said on the news and showed statistics that says that the criminality in the country is very little but people dont believe in his statistics. People want more aggressive actions. We used to be a very safe country with very little criminal activity. Now that we see this increase, even a little, we feel shocked. We were not used to that. In the world, seems like the laws are done to protect criminals and not citizens. Lawyers know how to interpret the law in favor of their clients. The lawyers and NGO usually fight for criminals and inmates in prisons human rights but they dont fight for the victims' human rights. There are some laws in Panama that were "forced" by some international agencies in order to protect and save young people, minors, etc... but the problem is that the law was left with some holes that minors could commit crimes and go unpunished. People over the years have been crying for changes in the law but... the pressure of the international agencies are so high and the changes are not yet in the future of the legislators in Panama. To me it was a surprise that the President says something like that in the news. It was the first time that he recognizes that something is not going well.... and we hope he takes care about this issue seriously. We could not leave the country to the maleantes. We cant allow to be kidnapped by the maleantes in this country... because it could turn into taking the law in people's hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger B Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Marcelyn said: Maybe "no worries" if your family members can threaten judges, witnesses, etc. (See Roger B's posting re Varela's report to news media). WE are looking for the president and the other police authorities to wear very well their "pantalones" and hit so hard those criminals and their families of criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Moderator_02 Posted February 27, 2017 Author Moderators Share Posted February 27, 2017 Quote Bank killing suspect on loose continues crime spree Posted on February 26, 2017 in Panama Day of the robbery Post Views: 167 A SUSPECT involved in several crimes including a bank robbery in which an employee was gunned down, is finally behind bars after indulging in crime spree while under house arrest with orders to report twice a week. Ariel Quiel Araúz, alias “Arielito”, when arrested had in his possession the firearm of the security guard at the Chanis branch of Banco General where a 62-year-old woman teller was shot and killed. Three days ago, before his arrest on Friday Feb. 24, he was granted immediate release with aperiodic report measure to the Public Ministry. He was arrested again for being linked to an armed robbery at an establishment selling car accessories. The Public Ministry, has confirmed to TVN that during a hearing on Saturday , a precautionary measure of provisional detention was ordered. The Bank incident for which he was originally arrested happened on February 4, when with three others he entered and robbed the bank. The robbery and killing of the bank employee which was fully recorded on surveillance cameras. http://www.newsroompanama.com/news/panama/bank-killing-suspect-loose-continues-crime-spree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Woolford Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Newsroom Panama is clearly misinforming people with this story. Sensationalism? Laziness? Incompetence? The person in question, Ariel Quiel Araúz, did not go on a crime spree this week as N.P. states in their headline. He was released from custody earlier in the week and was re-arrested on Friday in connection with an incident which occurred on February 4th. El incidente por el cual el ciudadano fue detenido sucedió el pasado 4 de febrero de 2017, cuando el imputado acompañado de tres sujetos más, entraron al local mencionado armados y cometieron el delito, que quedó totalmente registrado en las cámara de video y vigilancia http://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/judicial/Sospechoso-asesinato-apresado-liberado-semana_0_4698280173.html Edited February 27, 2017 by Keith Woolford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Keith Woolford said: Newsroom Panama is clearly misinforming people with this story. Sensationalism? Laziness? Incompetence? The person in question, Ariel Quiel Araúz, did not go on a crime spree this week as N.P. states in their headline. He was released from custody earlier in the week and was re-arrested on Friday in connection with an incident which occurred on February 4th. El incidente por el cual el ciudadano fue detenido sucedió el pasado 4 de febrero de 2017, cuando el imputado acompañado de tres sujetos más, entraron al local mencionado armados y cometieron el delito, que quedó totalmente registrado en las cámara de video y vigilancia http://www.tvn-2.com/nacionales/judicial/Sospechoso-asesinato-apresado-liberado-semana_0_4698280173.html So "fake news" is alive and well in Panama also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Doug Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Even more fun is that the incident actually occurred on February 10. http://www.newsroompanama.com/news/panama/teller-killed-guard-injured-bank-robbery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Moderator_02 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2018 Quote Bank robbery killer jailed 37 years Posted on November 12, 2018 in Panama The man who shot and killed a woman cashier during the robbery of the Banco General branch in Chanis, has been sentenced to 37 years in jail. A judge of guarantees validated the penalty agreement between the killer and the prosecution on Monday, November 12 said a Twitter message from Judicial authorities The bank teller Alina Xiomara Ivaldi Ávila, mother of the prosecutor Azael Samaniego, was killed on February 10, 2017.The security guard was injured. https://www.newsroompanama.com/news/panama/bank-robbery-killer-jailed-37-years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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