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The point is being missed. What Keith is saying is that the "expensive Jubilado process" is one of several residency visas that serve as a vetting tool. Going straight to an E Cedula would result in no vetting whatsoever of permanent residents. In all the complaining about how difficult and expensive that initial step is, has anyone considered that the alternative would be to welcome criminals and persons of insufficient means to contribute to the country's economy but, rather,  be a drain on its limited resources?

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Marie suggests that it would be nice to skip the jubilado visa process, which is expensive, and go straight to the E Cedula. But it is the jubilado visa (and other indefinite residency visas)  that weeds out persons unsuitable for residency. Without this vetting, Panama would stand the risk of being inundated with undesirables.

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2 hours ago, Bonnie said:

Marie suggests that it would be nice to skip the jubilado visa process, which is expensive, and go straight to the E Cedula. But it is the jubilado visa (and other indefinite residency visas)  that weeds out persons unsuitable for residency. Without this vetting, Panama would stand the risk of being inundated with undesirables.

Una canasta de deplorables?

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Every nation is entitled to enforce its borders, and determine which foreigners are allowed to enter.  If you have a front door with a lock you use, you understand the concept.  

 

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My suggestion was not meant to be taken seriously folks!  I would never want "deplorables" living next to me in or out of a basket.  LOL

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TE anuncia vigencia de cédulas por 15 años y reducción de costos por duplicados

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José Garibaldi

El Tribunal Electoral (TE) de Panamá anunció que desde el 1 de junio del 2020 se realizarán cambios en la expedición de las cédulas y carnés de residentes panameños (extranjeros), los que incluyen una vigencia de 10 a 15 años y reducción en el costo de los duplicados.

 

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TE announces validity of IDs for 15 years and reduction of costs in duplicates

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José Garibaldi • May 28, 2020 - 12:45 PM

The Electoral Tribunal (TE) of Panama announced that from June 1, 2020, changes will be made in the issuance of the certificates and cards of Panamanian residents (foreigners), which include a validity of 10 to 15 years and reduction in cost of duplicates.

 

https://www.telemetro.com/nacionales/2020/05/28/te-anuncia-vigencia-de-cedulas-por-15-anos-y-reduccion-de-costos-por-duplicados/2901186.html

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Cédulas y carnés de residencia tendrán validez por 15 años

Aminta Bustamante
29 may 2020 - 12:00 AM

https://www.prensa.com/impresa/panorama/cedulas-y-carnes-de-residencia-tendran-validez-por-15-anos/

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7 minutes ago, Moderator_02 said:

Appointments, he said, will be at the agreed time, so punctuality is required.

Let's wait and see how this works in a country with a manana culture.

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ID card validity extended to 15 years

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Posted 28/05/2020

The validity of the personal identity card (cedula) has been extended from 10 to 15  years  for Panamanians and foreign residents and the price will drop  from Monday,June 1 .

The cost of for the first time remains at $15 and replacement will be $25. Previously, the cost was $35 and  $48

The card for resident foreigners will be  $65 when you first get it and for the next one  you will have to pay an additional $50 said a Thursday May 28  Electoral Tribunal announcement.

 

https://www.newsroompanama.com/news/id-card-validity-extended-to-15-years

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