JudyS Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Is anyone else having trouble downloading and installing these? This month nothing will download. It hangs at 0%. I googled to find out if it is a general problem, but I am hesitant to try some of the fixes. A fix I got from Microsoft a few years ago permanently messed up my computer. Edited November 29, 2016 by JudyS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 DIdn't you say a few months ago "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Or maybe that was Penny B. Microsoft has moved on from Windows 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundageba Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 50 minutes ago, JudyS said: Is anyone else having trouble downloading and installing these? This month nothing will download. It hangs at 0%. I googled to find out if it is a general problem, but I am hesitant to try some of the fixes. A fix I got from Microsoft a few years ago permanently messed up my computer. yes....took it to the shop. Minor fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelyn Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Joseph said: DIdn't you say a few months ago "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Or maybe that was Penny B. Microsoft has moved on from Windows 7. Joseph: I believe Judy is looking for help with this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 2 hours ago, JudyS said: Is anyone else having trouble downloading and installing these? This month nothing will download. It hangs at 0%. I googled to find out if it is a general problem, but I am hesitant to try some of the fixes. A fix I got from Microsoft a few years ago permanently messed up my computer. I'm having the same problem, but I just figured Microsoft may be trying another ruse to get us to switch to Windows 10. Alison, what shop? And what kind of fix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Woolford Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 We're still not having any problems with Windows 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Moderator_02 Posted November 30, 2016 Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2016 Readers of this topic may wish to also read a blog posting about Windows 10 by TwinWolf at http://www.chiriqui.life/blogs/entry/192-windows-10-updates/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyS Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 17 hours ago, Joseph said: DIdn't you say a few months ago "if it ain't broke don't fix it". Or maybe that was Penny B. Microsoft has moved on from Windows 7. They are supporting Win7 until 2020, so that is not the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyS Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Keith Woolford said: We're still not having any problems with Windows 10. That might be fine for you, but it is known that on older computers Win 10 does not install well. The Win 7 updates should be working. It has nothing to do with us not installing Win 10. MS is still supporting Win 7. Edited November 30, 2016 by JudyS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyS Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 53 minutes ago, Moderator_02 said: Readers of this topic may wish to also read a blog posting about Windows 10 by TwinWolf at http://www.chiriqui.life/blogs/entry/192-windows-10-updates/. Thanks for reposting this Bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Woolford Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) 32 minutes ago, JudyS said: They are supporting Win7 until 2020, so that is not the problem. What does the MS support team say about the problem? Edited November 30, 2016 by Keith Woolford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyS Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Here is a solution that is said to work. I haven't tried it yet and don't know if you have to do this every month or only once. UPDATE, October 16, 2016. Windows update works fine when you apply the solution described below. However, you may wish to consider whether you want to apply the October "Roll-up" update until more is known about its implications. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/windows-7-update-solution/f39a65fa-9d10-42e7-9bc0-7f5096b36d0c If anybody does this, please report. Shouldn't MS be fixing this instead of making everyone jump through hoops? Win 10 forces all the updates on you. You don't get to choose. I know, time to go Mac, but that is even more confusing to me than Windows. Edited November 30, 2016 by JudyS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyS Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 Success! I followed the instructions in this website (easy), checked for updates and successfully downloaded the latest ones after having failed several times before I found this fix. You go to the update section on the control panel, change the updates to "never", and restart the computer. Download the appropriate file for your 32 or 64 bit computer (I only had to download one file). Restart the computer and go to Check for Updates on the Control Panel. It takes a while for the updates to come up, but they all downloaded this time. Go back and change the update setting to "Ask me" or "Automatic", whichever you prefer. Restart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I saw this article this morning in Yahoo News from Forbes magazine:. "For Windows 7 and Windows 8 / Windows 8.1 users life has been getting worse as Microsoft MSFT -0.60% gradually morphed them ever more into Windows 10. Forced updates may be over, but commercially they have since been killed off and there’s added telemetry tracking. But Microsoft is now about to fix one of their biggest Windows 10-inspired flaws: it’s time to wave goodbye to the ‘patchocalypse’… Posting under the catchy headline ‘Update to Supersedence Behaviour for Security Only and Security Monthly Quality Rollup Updates’, Microsoft field engineer Scott Breen says the patchocalypse (which created huge Windows 7 and Windows 8 update sizes) is no more. Forced updates to Windows 10 updates have been heavily (and rightly) criticised, but Windows 7 and Windows 8 users are about to get a better deal. Image credit: Gordon Kelly “Based on feedback, the team has updated the supersedence relationship of updates so that Security Only updates are not superseded. In addition, the logic of the updates has been modified so that if the Monthly Quality update is installed (which contains the security updates), the security update will not be applicable.” Breen spells out the benefits as Windows 7 and Windows 8 users as now being able to: Selectively install Security Only updates at any time Periodically deploy the Security Monthly Quality Rollup and only deploy the Security Only updates since then, and; More easily monitor software update compliance using Configuration Manager or WSUS. But boiling this down even more, what it translates to is users can accept the latest security updates without being forced to download anything else. You get a lean mean operating system and wave goodbye to security updates being dependent on you accepting every feature, bug patch or new telemetry tracker Microsoft throws at you. How Microsoft has done this is by making its Windows 7 and Windows 8 Monthly Rollup patches (a collection of anything you may have missed) easily dividable into security patches and everything else. Thankfully this puts an end to an accept all / reject all policy that left users feeling either exploited if they opted for the former, or vulnerable if they opted for the latter. What’s the bad news? This is how Windows 7 and Windows 8 used to work before Microsoft tried to force them to use the accept all Windows 10 method. What fuelled this? I’d like to say common sense, after all this wasn’t the behaviour Windows 7 and Windows 8 users signed up for when the platforms were new. But on the other hand the Windows 10 free upgrade window is over so what’s the point in poking users who aren’t going anywhere? Especially when the end of retail sales will get them all to Windows 10 in the end anyway. Yes, the changes are not as good as the Windows 10 smart upgrades Microsoft recently announced (of course). But ultimately life on Windows 7 and Windows 8 has just got a lot better / closer to the good old days. And that’s a win." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Wolf Technology Group Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) When people think of Windows, they think of their personal computer. However, most do not realize that many of the other things they interact with daily are also running Windows. If you have ever walked into a casino and seen rows and rows of slot machines - most do not realize that many of them are simply a computer running Windows. Without seeing a keyboard and mouse, the average person would not think that this is a single game program being displayed and run by Windows. The same is true of some ATM machines, some cash register terminals and many other devices we interact with every day. With the news that Bonnie has quoted, I suspect that there has been a strong outcry from larger companies that need the security patches but are burdened by all the additional patches that can have an effect on their device's single purpose. This was also they case when WIndows XP came to "end of life" and no more security patches were going to be released. Microsoft soon reversed it's decision and continued security patches. Having options is always a good thing because the world is not simply black or white. The fight for control tries to make it so but ultimately, there are exceptions to every rule. Windows 7 and Windows 10 are distinctly different. Each with its own advantages and faults. I am happy to see Microsoft giving users the option to choose what best fits their needs. Windows 10 is great for a one size fits all approach and Windows 7 is great for allowing companies and users to choose what fits them best. Edited December 9, 2016 by Twin Wolf Technology Group 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Woolford Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 great explanation Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF13 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Dan, what do you know about linux ubuntu? Got a laptop here running it but I dont know how to get it working the way I need to. Send me a pm at johnferguson1301 (at) gmail dot com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Wolf Technology Group Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 John, Sent you an email and have not gotten a reply. You can send a private email to me at dan@twinwolf.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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